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		<title>By: brotherjohnny</title>
		<link>http://brotherjohnny.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/the-need-to-exercise-discernment/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>brotherjohnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good insight, B.
Gods infinite discernment trumps our own...
Makes me wonder, though, how close He&#039;ll let us get in the here and now.

Surely being a &#039;partaker of the divine nature&#039; must have some implications in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good insight, B.<br />
Gods infinite discernment trumps our own&#8230;<br />
Makes me wonder, though, how close He&#8217;ll let us get in the here and now.</p>
<p>Surely being a &#8216;partaker of the divine nature&#8217; must have some implications in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittian Bullock</title>
		<link>http://brotherjohnny.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/the-need-to-exercise-discernment/#comment-723</link>
		<dc:creator>Brittian Bullock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get that the analogy has its distinct limitations--and clearly, it&#039;s central character is a two year old.  But somehow, I&#039;m not so sure but that our own actions aren&#039;t viewed, from a divine perspective, through the same lens... Anyhow...I&#039;m not trying to question what you&#039;re saying anyway.  I agree with it, the older you get (in my analogy) the more capable I am of making contextual and reasonable decisions.  Similarly, I think discernment comes with time and maturation as well (GOD I HOPE!!!!). And after all, we are invited to GROW in grace.
can&#039;t wait to read the second post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get that the analogy has its distinct limitations&#8211;and clearly, it&#8217;s central character is a two year old.  But somehow, I&#8217;m not so sure but that our own actions aren&#8217;t viewed, from a divine perspective, through the same lens&#8230; Anyhow&#8230;I&#8217;m not trying to question what you&#8217;re saying anyway.  I agree with it, the older you get (in my analogy) the more capable I am of making contextual and reasonable decisions.  Similarly, I think discernment comes with time and maturation as well (GOD I HOPE!!!!). And after all, we are invited to GROW in grace.<br />
can&#8217;t wait to read the second post.</p>
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		<title>By: brotherjohnny</title>
		<link>http://brotherjohnny.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/the-need-to-exercise-discernment/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>brotherjohnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brittian,

I deeply appreciate your comments here.

I&#039;ve come to realize that the old &quot;wrong tree&quot; doctrine has it&#039;s limitations...as do all metaphors. 
It serves it&#039;s purpose in disarming the judgmental legalist mindest, but  when stretched beyond it&#039;s potential, it serves only to stunt the development of the various God given faculties of the redeemed mind.

Great analogy, by the way.
Seeing a bowl as a hat illustrates a most beautiful and innocent childlike creativity...
and is fitting for a child.
However, if a thirty year old were to dump a bowl of ceral and milk on his head, I would have to question thier sanity.
:-)

...and sadly, this is the state of far too many in the church today.

May Gods favor abound to you more and more, brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brittian,</p>
<p>I deeply appreciate your comments here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come to realize that the old &#8220;wrong tree&#8221; doctrine has it&#8217;s limitations&#8230;as do all metaphors.<br />
It serves it&#8217;s purpose in disarming the judgmental legalist mindest, but  when stretched beyond it&#8217;s potential, it serves only to stunt the development of the various God given faculties of the redeemed mind.</p>
<p>Great analogy, by the way.<br />
Seeing a bowl as a hat illustrates a most beautiful and innocent childlike creativity&#8230;<br />
and is fitting for a child.<br />
However, if a thirty year old were to dump a bowl of ceral and milk on his head, I would have to question thier sanity. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;and sadly, this is the state of far too many in the church today.</p>
<p>May Gods favor abound to you more and more, brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittian Bullock</title>
		<link>http://brotherjohnny.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/the-need-to-exercise-discernment/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Brittian Bullock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BroJo,
very provacative post. 

It&#039;s interesting to me because when I was just pulling away from the circles we&#039;ve both moved in, one of the most important &quot;recoveries&quot; of my sense of purpose and identity was tied up in many of the same verses/realities.  I needed to be able to discern right from wrong again. I needed to be able to see things, not as utilitarean and &quot;it takes a few cracked eggs to make an omlet&quot; but rather to things in the light of God having a will (or Eternal Purpose) but also a Way (the route He&#039;s getting there with).  For me I see this as an important reaction to the self (certain Selves more than others) serving grayness that had enveloped much of the church life I had come to experience.  church life had essentially been turned into such a grace filled place that was free for all, that it had become a free for all.  At the end of the day it seemed like a descent into madness (to borrow from Schaeffer--who was very important during that transitional time).  I remember making identical statements to the ones above.

I think its such an amazing (though as you acknowledged--amazingly dangerous) place to come to.  It&#039; so neccesary.  

I don&#039;t know if I&#039;m there any more for the time being.  I tend to encounter my world right now through this little analogy... My son Judah (2 years old) loves cerial.  One day i walked in to the dining room after leaving him alone briefly, and he was wearing his cerial bowl.  You can see it can&#039;t you?  Milk dripping down his face, Cinnamon Toast Crunch clinging to his hair and forehead...classic.  That&#039;s when it hit me.  His interpretation of a bowl as a potential hat wasn&#039;t wrong...a bowl really can be a hat in a pinch...but it was ALL wrong in that moment.  It was a valid interpretation, but there were better ones--ones that matched his context and his desires far more.  I realize that this gets into tricky terrain, that&#039;s just a fact I have to accept. In some ways, I feel that this affirms a realiance on the Spirit in a way that my practical atheism didn&#039;t.

Anyhow...
thanks for putting it out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BroJo,<br />
very provacative post. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to me because when I was just pulling away from the circles we&#8217;ve both moved in, one of the most important &#8220;recoveries&#8221; of my sense of purpose and identity was tied up in many of the same verses/realities.  I needed to be able to discern right from wrong again. I needed to be able to see things, not as utilitarean and &#8220;it takes a few cracked eggs to make an omlet&#8221; but rather to things in the light of God having a will (or Eternal Purpose) but also a Way (the route He&#8217;s getting there with).  For me I see this as an important reaction to the self (certain Selves more than others) serving grayness that had enveloped much of the church life I had come to experience.  church life had essentially been turned into such a grace filled place that was free for all, that it had become a free for all.  At the end of the day it seemed like a descent into madness (to borrow from Schaeffer&#8211;who was very important during that transitional time).  I remember making identical statements to the ones above.</p>
<p>I think its such an amazing (though as you acknowledged&#8211;amazingly dangerous) place to come to.  It&#8217; so neccesary.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m there any more for the time being.  I tend to encounter my world right now through this little analogy&#8230; My son Judah (2 years old) loves cerial.  One day i walked in to the dining room after leaving him alone briefly, and he was wearing his cerial bowl.  You can see it can&#8217;t you?  Milk dripping down his face, Cinnamon Toast Crunch clinging to his hair and forehead&#8230;classic.  That&#8217;s when it hit me.  His interpretation of a bowl as a potential hat wasn&#8217;t wrong&#8230;a bowl really can be a hat in a pinch&#8230;but it was ALL wrong in that moment.  It was a valid interpretation, but there were better ones&#8211;ones that matched his context and his desires far more.  I realize that this gets into tricky terrain, that&#8217;s just a fact I have to accept. In some ways, I feel that this affirms a realiance on the Spirit in a way that my practical atheism didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Anyhow&#8230;<br />
thanks for putting it out there.</p>
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		<title>By: brotherjohnny</title>
		<link>http://brotherjohnny.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/the-need-to-exercise-discernment/#comment-716</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your kind and generous comments here, Scott.
This post still needs a little more tweaking, but I felt okay about sharing it.

It may be a little while before the next installment in this vein...
we&#039;ll see.

You and Sandy are in my prayers, brother.
The Lord is working to change both circumstance and perspective...
Whatever that means...
:-) :-) :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your kind and generous comments here, Scott.<br />
This post still needs a little more tweaking, but I felt okay about sharing it.</p>
<p>It may be a little while before the next installment in this vein&#8230;<br />
we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>You and Sandy are in my prayers, brother.<br />
The Lord is working to change both circumstance and perspective&#8230;<br />
Whatever that means&#8230;<br />
 <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pasturescott</title>
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		<dc:creator>pasturescott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Courageous and merciful, JT. I have not even attempted to write on such a difficult (from our limited, unrefined perspective) topic, but you have treated it head-on with rich balance and wonderful insights. Herein is a great message for this hour of great shaking, sweeping away (professing Christ) and coming into our true identity (possessing Him). May the Church hear!

Next one is a &#039;toughy&#039; you say? Looking forward to it.

Thank you for treating this in the light of the Good News. This J-word is right, holy and sanctified. Let us all shed the &#039;judging down&#039; shenanigans and truly care for one another...faithful are the wounds of a friend...restore such a one (Gal 5:1)...go after a sinning brother and save his soul from damnation (James 5:20)...

Keep sounding the trumpet, brother!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Courageous and merciful, JT. I have not even attempted to write on such a difficult (from our limited, unrefined perspective) topic, but you have treated it head-on with rich balance and wonderful insights. Herein is a great message for this hour of great shaking, sweeping away (professing Christ) and coming into our true identity (possessing Him). May the Church hear!</p>
<p>Next one is a &#8216;toughy&#8217; you say? Looking forward to it.</p>
<p>Thank you for treating this in the light of the Good News. This J-word is right, holy and sanctified. Let us all shed the &#8216;judging down&#8217; shenanigans and truly care for one another&#8230;faithful are the wounds of a friend&#8230;restore such a one (Gal 5:1)&#8230;go after a sinning brother and save his soul from damnation (James 5:20)&#8230;</p>
<p>Keep sounding the trumpet, brother!</p>
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		<title>By: brotherjohnny</title>
		<link>http://brotherjohnny.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/the-need-to-exercise-discernment/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator>brotherjohnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jerald.
I need to edit this some though...

The next post in this vein is going to be a toughy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jerald.<br />
I need to edit this some though&#8230;</p>
<p>The next post in this vein is going to be a toughy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jerald</title>
		<link>http://brotherjohnny.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/the-need-to-exercise-discernment/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woh, Johnny. Good stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woh, Johnny. Good stuff!</p>
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